In this first episode, Rev Juana Jordan, a black woman and Rev David Williamson, a white man, both United Methodist Clergy, talk about what anti-racism work looks like by noticing our differences and having our stories heard without attack, shame or blame for ourselves or others. Juana and David model how conversation about about racism can liberate black and white people, and ultimately lead to change at four levels, personal, interpersonal, institutional and cultural.